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laurentdjo
08-09-2010, 10:06 AM
Hi,

When I delete a calendar events in DJO, this event is note deleted in my Outlook biz and even recreated in DJO, even after trying several times !?!!!

This is not happening if I delete events from my Outlook biz or my Outlook home : the deletion on DJO is OK and on each Outlook too.

What's happening ?

Regards

French / Windows XP SP3 / Outlook 2003 SP3 / CL Pro 4.0.4006 / Samsung Galaxy S / Android 2.1 / DJO 1.6.1b / param = days back 30 + sync both ways + deleted both + sync alarms + cleared records

laurentdjo
08-11-2010, 08:07 AM
Always bad with DJO 1.6.2 : delete DJO events ar not deleted in Outlook and recreated in DJO ! Regards.

French / Windows XP SP3 / Outlook 2003 SP3 / CL Pro 4.0.4006 / Samsung Galaxy S / Android 2.1 / DJO 1.6.2 / Param = days back 30 + sync both ways + deleted both + sync alarms + cleared records

Skip-A
08-11-2010, 01:55 PM
I am having the same problem with my HTC Droid Incredible. In the CL Setup - Outlook Settings - Applications tab, I have the Transfer Direction set to "Android to Outlook" and the Primary Database set to Android. I am under the impression that the latter setting is meant to ensure that any calendar appointments deleted on the device will be reflected in Outlook. However, when I open my Outlook calendar the appointments deleted on the device are still there and have not been deleted in Outlook.

Please help

laurentdjo
08-12-2010, 08:35 AM
Thanks for your feedback that indicates this is not only a Galaxy S incident ; surely, the DJO Team will do its best to correct such a malfunction ! Regards.

Ben
08-12-2010, 10:04 AM
larentdjo and Skip-A - Both of your reports sound like modified time issues. Basically, when a record has conflicting edits (e.g. a calendar event that has been deleted in Outlook and also modified on Android), the edit with the most recent modified time is kept.

Here are a couple of things to check that may resolve the issues for you:

1. Make sure that Google sync is off on your Android. With Google sync on, it could be the case that Google is updating the records on Android after you have changed/deleted them on Outlook, so that the Android changes are always kept, instead of the Outlook ones.

2. Make sure that the system time on your PC and the system time on your Android are the same.

newtonwb
08-12-2010, 10:35 AM
[QUOTE=Ben;1386]larentdjo and Skip-A - Both of your reports sound like modified time issues. Basically, when a record has conflicting edits (e.g. a calendar event that has been deleted in Outlook and also modified on Android), the edit with the most recent modified time is kept.
QUOTE]

That's good to know, but also generates a few questions for me.

1. Do you plan on onffering the user a choice to pick which record to keep or even creating a duplicate on both devices?

2. Do you plan on offering a notice that the two device times are not synchronized?

Thanks,
-William

laurentdjo
08-12-2010, 12:44 PM
larentdjo and Skip-A - Both of your reports sound like modified time issues. Basically, when a record has conflicting edits (e.g. a calendar event that has been deleted in Outlook and also modified on Android), the edit with the most recent modified time is kept.

Here are a couple of things to check that may resolve the issues for you:

1. Make sure that Google sync is off on your Android. With Google sync on, it could be the case that Google is updating the records on Android after you have changed/deleted them on Outlook, so that the Android changes are always kept, instead of the Outlook ones.

2. Make sure that the system time on your PC and the system time on your Android are the same.

Hi Ben, thank you very much for your questioning,

First of all : it seems weird too me as such a bug should have already been found for a while on your side if it was general ; I'm pretty sure of that.

1.
Because I have found a couple of bugs about Native Android & Google sync, I do not use them at all : just DJO. I have put one time at the start my contacts to Android to be able to use my phone as a phone, that's all.

2.
I have just reproduced the fact with DJO 1.6.3 now :
- I modify the title of event1 in DJO.
- I wait minutes.
- I modify the title of event1 in Outlook.
- I sync...
- And, the oldest modified event1 in DJO is found on both sides !
The time is exactly the same : 20h30. But, you know well that Android copes with the DST (daylight saving time) in a strange manner that works well with Outlook/DJO presently and also with syncing with Google. I'm in France, and my TZ (time zone) is GMT+1, but in summer, the DST is +1h, and Android put a TZ with GMT+2 to reflect that !?!!! Perhaps not a good idea, bu that's the case and for the moment it works for me even if I'm afraid of what will happen in winter. So, I'm TZ=GMT+2=20h30, and my PC is TZ=GMT+1+DST(1h)=20h30. You can see many forums discussions in America about that problem.
Anyway, the syncing works perfectly with DJO with these parameters, but, perhaps, you forget to check the modification time of events against TZ+DST ?

Regards

French / Windows XP SP3 / Outlook 2003 SP3 / CL Pro 4.0.4006 / Samsung Galaxy S / Android 2.1 / DJO 1.6.3 / Param = days back 30 + sync both ways + deleted both + sync alarms + cleared records + no Native Android & Google sync

laurentdjo
08-13-2010, 02:04 AM
A remark, your forum works exactly like Android to manage DST with TZ ; this at the bottom :

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Regards

French / Windows XP SP3 / Outlook 2003 SP3 / CL Pro 4.0.4006 / Samsung Galaxy S / Android 2.1 / DJO 1.6.3 / Param = days back 30 + sync both ways + deleted both + sync alarms + cleared records + no Native Android & Google sync

Skip-A
08-14-2010, 11:27 AM
Your advice, to stop syncing with Google calendar, seems to have done the trick and enabled my device deletes to be reflected in Outlook. What I did was to go into DJO Settings, Sync Settings, and then unchecked Sync with Android Calendar App. Then, in CL Setup: Outlook Settings, Applications tab: Calendar transfer set to "Android to Outlook", Primary Database set to Android.

Thanks!


larentdjo and Skip-A - Both of your reports sound like modified time issues. Basically, when a record has conflicting edits (e.g. a calendar event that has been deleted in Outlook and also modified on Android), the edit with the most recent modified time is kept.

Here are a couple of things to check that may resolve the issues for you:

1. Make sure that Google sync is off on your Android. With Google sync on, it could be the case that Google is updating the records on Android after you have changed/deleted them on Outlook, so that the Android changes are always kept, instead of the Outlook ones.

2. Make sure that the system time on your PC and the system time on your Android are the same.

laurentdjo
08-20-2010, 01:08 AM
Hi, to stop syncing with Google Calendar was not enough to me ; the 08-12-2010 08:44 PM post above is always true for me. Regards.

laurentdjo
08-20-2010, 12:00 PM
larentdjo and Skip-A - Both of your reports sound like modified time issues. Basically, when a record has conflicting edits (e.g. a calendar event that has been deleted in Outlook and also modified on Android), the edit with the most recent modified time is kept.
Here are a couple of things to check that may resolve the issues for you:
1. Make sure that Google sync is off on your Android. With Google sync on, it could be the case that Google is updating the records on Android after you have changed/deleted them on Outlook, so that the Android changes are always kept, instead of the Outlook ones.
2. Make sure that the system time on your PC and the system time on your Android are the same.

Hi Ben,

This issue is very annoying.

It happens even with last software delivery within this environment :
Windows XP FR SP3 / Outlook 2003 FR SP3 / CL Pro 4.0.4008 paid / Samsung Galaxy S / Android 2.1 / DJO 1.6.4 / Param = days back 30 + sync both ways + deleted both + sync alarms + cleared records + Android contacts sync + Google.com no sync

My new tests :

If I have an existing appointment in Outlook with DJO perfectly synced, then, if I delete it inside DJO, at the first sync, the DJO appointment is recreated and no deletion occurs in Outlook.
If I create a new appointment in Outlook, it is also impossible to delete it from DJO.
If I delete the appointment in Outlook, there is no problem at all.
New discovery : if I modify the TEST appointment in DJO labeling it TESTA just before supressing it, then the Outlook TEST appointment is correctly deleted !?!!!


I think it should be easier to catch the phenomenon now...

Regards

Skip-A
09-28-2010, 05:54 AM
As it turns out, I'm still having difficulty synchronizing a calendar entry that I've deleted on my Droid Incredible. The deleted event is not deleted in Outlook after synchronization. I'm currently using DJO 1.7.2 Beta, CompanioinLink 4016, Outlook 2007 on Windows 7 PC. I've set CL Applications tab to "Android to Outlook" under Calendar, and the Primary Database to Android. I've turned off Auto-sync and Background Data transfer on my device, so no Google apps are interfering.

Any suggestions?

laurentdjo
10-01-2010, 10:30 AM
It does not work for me either.
Wondering if DJO dev team take a look at this bug (?) or not...
Regards

laurentdjo
10-04-2010, 01:16 PM
Not fixed in 1.7.3b !

laurentdjo
12-03-2010, 12:21 AM
Hi,

I have uninstalled fully DJO & CLP deleting all the databases for Android and Windows and deleting the remaining files also. I have installed the latest version and refresh all my Android DJO data with Outlook 2007 : perfect !

But, I always have a deletion issue.

It happens even with last software delivery within this environment :
XP FR / Outlook 2007 / DJO 1.9.4 + CLP 4.0.4024 paid license / Samsung Galaxy S / Android 2.2 / Settings = 30 days back + sync both ways + sync deletions + sync alarms + cleared records + native Android contacts sync but no Google sync

My new tests :
If I have an existing appointment in Outlook with DJO already synced, then, if I delete it inside DJO, at the first sync, the DJO appointment is recreated and no deletion occurs in Outlook.
If I create a new appointment in Outlook, it is also impossible to delete it from DJO after.
If I delete the appointment in Outlook, there is no problem at all : a perfect sync.
New discovery : if I modify the TEST appointment in DJO labeling it TESTA just before supressing it, then the Outlook TEST appointment is correctly deleted inside Outlook calendar !?!!!

I think it should be easier to catch the phenomenon now...

Regards

laurentdjo
12-22-2010, 05:06 AM
Hi,

I have upgraded to the latest versions of DJO & CLP, but nothing has changed for the issue above...

Does anybody has tried that ?

Regards

XP FR / Outlook 2007 / DJO 1.9.8 + CLP 4.0.4026 paid license / Samsung Galaxy S / Android 2.2 / Settings = 30 days back + sync both ways + sync deletions + sync alarms + cleared records + native Android contacts sync but no Google sync