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    More will be revealed

    More information to come. Look for something exciting at the end of April 2013 [Edit - End of May] [Edit - Maybe 2nd week of June? ]
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    Hm, I really hope, you do not neglect DO/CL with local sync (via USB). I don't want to use any Cloud because of data security reasons. My data (contacts, appointsments, etc) must not be "online" anywhere ...

    This was the reason for me NOT to change from Windows Mobile 6.5 (with Active Sync via USB) to WinPhone7 (only cloud sync).

    So please, do not focus on "cloud-services", ONLY.

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    MG111, Thank you for your input.

    I see things as a hierarchy. No one wants to lose what they had before. Only when they have what they had, will they be willing to try to do new things.

    So for us, USB sync is fundamental, because it is a foundation technology.

    Wi-Fi and Bluetooth build on that because they are local, although both are OTA technologies which could be captured by local listening.

    CompanionLink Secure Hosted Wireless (CLSH) is a secure point-to-point data transmission. It sends only encrypted packets, and does not store data. This is our most secure system for HIPAA customers and those concerned about avoiding any cloud storage.

    DejaCloud and DejaOffice Online will be a "database stored on a web server" technology primarily to provide convenient data access. It is more flexible than CLSH because it allows multiple device connections, but unfortunately it depends on the master database to be stored on a server, leaving it vulnerable to attack. At least, it is an improvement over Google, in that we don't mine the data to send advertisements to the contacts in the database.

    I hope this clarifies things. Our commitment is to all these technologies on as many phones as we can. In that way we can accomplish our mission: Your data, Your device, Simply, Reliably, Securely.

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    DJOCTO,

    Really hope your Mar 2013 is sooner than later. Want a new Contacts Manager that I can keep separate from iPhone / iPad native and so -

    "DejaCloud and DejaOffice Online will be a "database stored on a web server" technology primarily to provide convenient data access. It is more flexible than CLSH because it allows multiple device connections, but unfortunately it depends on the master database to be stored on a server, leaving it vulnerable to attack. At least, it is an improvement over Google, in that we don't mine the data to send advertisements to the contacts in the database.'

    Sounds GREAT. Happy to Beta if you need.

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    Any update?

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    It's going well, but slowly. We needed to reengineer some parts. It will arrive in a few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJOCTO View Post
    It's going well, but slowly. We needed to reengineer some parts. It will arrive in a few weeks.
    I hope, the security of webaccess will be part of the re-engineering process. Right now it's unencrypted ... (http://sync.dejacloudsync.com/account/). Manual use of https is possible, but the certificate does not match the URL and it should be mandatory, shouldn't it?

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    So, if I understand correctly, one can use Dejaoffice and all adjunct programs direct from Outlook desktop to new BB10 OS, including Z10, WITHOUT uploading any information to the cloud, that cloud use is just an option. Is that right?

    And that, for the moment, the cloud version is not encrypted, but granted not "mined" for data like Google might do. Is that right?

    Will there be an encrypted cloud version at some point?

    HIPAA compliance is non trivial, requires mandatory backups and retrieval of data. For example, Dropbox provides encrypted storage, but is not HIPAA compliant. Mozy, on the other hand is HIPAA compliant. Are you certain DejaOffice apps (please specify which ones and through what level of communication, eg USB, wireless, wifi, etc) are HIPAA compliant.

    Lots of questions, thanks in advance!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPF94025 View Post
    So, if I understand correctly, one can use Dejaoffice and all adjunct programs direct from Outlook desktop to new BB10 OS, including Z10, WITHOUT uploading any information to the cloud, that cloud use is just an option. Is that right?
    For HIPAA compliance our solutions are the direct sync (USB) and CLSH (CompanionLink Secure Hosted Wireless). Both are a point-to-point system, with no stored data. CLSH uses EAS256 encryption for the data. The key to CLSH is that it transmits data, but does not store it after the sync. So once synchronized there is nothing to back up, nothing to retrieve. The assumption is that your backup and retrieval systems are found on your PC (transmitting system).

    Since we already supply compliant OTA sync, it is not our highest priority with DejaCloud. All the security makes for slow synchronization, so we don't want the product perceived as being sluggish and cumbersome for the 98% of people who don't need HIPAA compliance. We will be adding items over time, like secure transmission.

    Ultimately our model may move to a "stored Cloud" model, where the cloud database may be hosted on your own system, and made compliant by each corporations standard. I would say for now that is at least 6 months off...

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    I would be curious how this project is coming. I really like the idea of web access that is fully compatible with Outlook and DJO because this would be potentially easier to use from work which blocks a lot of third party options except web and I would much rather use Companion Link than Google. I don't care so much about encryption (https would be good).

    I assume the Deja loud pricing would remain per syncing device, not per viewing device. Thus, I might make changes via web browser to Deja Cloud, but would only be charge for syncing my home Outlook and my Nexus 4 (2 devices). M work computer and maybe my tabled would only be used to view the data in Deja Cloud in a browser and would, thus, not count as additional clients? If I have to count devices that view, it gets very expensive very quickly.

    By the way, a lot of very basic information on Deja Cloud service seems to be hidden on pages without easy links from other pages. I found the address for one page at the end of the Deja Cloud set up video:

    http://www.companionlink.com/dejacloud/

    That page finally gave me a link to the pricing structure:

    https://secure.companionlink.com/buynow/dejacloud.php

    I would think this information should be more up front.

    Any information you have on what web access for Deja Cloud might look like, when it will be released and the pricing structure would be appreciated.
    Sadly, I can no longer use CL or DJO as I have replaced Outlook with Thunderbird and Pimlical Desktop. Pimlical, since moving to Java 8 is no longer compatible with Companion Link. I will lurk about just because I am interested. Please let me know if the Pimlical compatibility problem ever changes and thanks to all here for your support and help over the years. This is the best software for synching Outlook to Android.

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